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Bones in Bulgaria May Be of John the Baptist

Postby weakmagneto on June 17th, 2012, 1:04 pm 

Experts say a knuckle bone and other remains are probably those of the beheaded saint.
June 15, 2012
Discovery News

THE GIST
The relics found in a small marble sarcophagus two years ago on a Bulgarian island called Sveti Ivan.
Bulgarian archaeologists had found a small box made of hardened volcanic ash close to the sarcophagus.
A research team from Oxford University dated the right-handed knuckle bone to the first century AD.


Scientists have found new evidence they say supports the theory that a knuckle bone and other human remains found under a church floor in Bulgaria may be of John the Baptist.

The relics found in a small marble sarcophagus two years ago on a Bulgarian island called Sveti Ivan, which translates as Saint John, also included a human tooth, part of a skull and three animal bones.

A research team from Oxford University dated the right-handed knuckle bone to the first century AD, when John is believed to have lived until his beheading ordered by king Herod, the university said in a statement.

And scientists from the University of Copenhagen analysed the DNA of the bones, finding they came from a single individual, probably a man, from a family in the modern-day Middle East, where John would have lived.

While these findings do not definitively prove anything, they also don't refute the theory first proffered by the Bulgarian archaeologists who found the remains while excavating under an ancient church on the island.

Many sites around the world claim to hold relics of the saint, including the Grand Mosque in Damascus which says it has his head.

The right hand with which the prophet allegedly baptised Jesus in the River Jordan is also claimed to be held by several entities, including a Serbian Orthodox monastery in Montenegro.

"The result from the metacarpal hand bone is clearly consistent with someone who lived in the early first century AD," Oxford University professor Tom Higham said of the new study.

"Whether that person is John the Baptist is a question that we cannot yet definitely answer and probably never will."

Bulgarian archaeologists had found a small box made of hardened volcanic ash close to the sarcophagus.

The box bore inscriptions in ancient Greek that referred to John the Baptist and the date that Christians celebrate his birth, June 24.

The findings of another Oxford researcher, using historical documents, suggest that the monastery of Sveti Ivan may have received a portion of John the Baptist's relics in the fifth or early sixth centuries.

The findings are to be presented in a documentary to be aired on The National Geographic channel in Britain on Sunday.


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Re: Bones in Bulgaria May Be of John the Baptist

Postby Watson on June 17th, 2012, 1:28 pm 

My first thought was "not likely", thinking they had the whole body, but reading to the end, I guess anything is possible. OK, ickk, but then why do this in the first place? Who decides what part goes where, and who at the churches says, yes please send us a bone? Is there any significances to the right hand knuckle bone over the left and does thing mean all his bones were disrtibuted around to various churches? This just raises a whole lot of questions. I know you're thinking it, who got the penis?
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Re: Bones in Bulgaria May Be of John the Baptist

Postby Serpent on June 18th, 2012, 12:33 am 

If John had an actual bone in his boner, it must go to the best possible forensic lab.
Otherwise... so bloody what?
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Re: Bones in Bulgaria May Be of John the Baptist

Postby Watson on June 18th, 2012, 12:48 pm 

It was a facetious comment, and didn't mention a bone actually.

But this group, sect, cult or church leadership distributed parts of his body through out the churchdom, for whatever reason. Was it out of such deep respect that each church property was offered a small piece, representing his sole and eternal goodness? Or, was it out of such deep disrespect that the body was severed into multiple pieces and distributed secretly so as the body could never be honored, worshipped or martered? In any case, given what they did, and for whatever reason, these bits would not have been discarded.

As body parts go, the genital may hold more signifigance than other parts, possibly up near the top, with head and heart. Even a hand would have some meaning, but a knuckle? How many properties needed a piece of this person?
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Re: Bones in Bulgaria May Be of John the Baptist

Postby karaxxai on June 21st, 2012, 12:33 am 

I am skeptical. This will be like the super fast neutrinos.
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Re: Bones in Bulgaria May Be of John the Baptist

Postby Gregorygregg1 on June 21st, 2012, 1:00 pm 

It reminds me of paying $.50 to visit the tomb of the infant Jesus.
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