Don Juan wrote:That makes sense. I have no way of understanding except to know and reflect upon the relationships and wholeness. Everything has to be existence and I cannot imagine of "what's beyond". It is as if I am inside the Matrix waiting for someone to wake me up in the real world, except that this real world may "mean" to "un-know", to "stop thinking and become quiet", to relinquish all mind processes...to be just like "how it was" "before" birth and "how it is" "after" death.
Gregorygregg1 wrote:From one perspective, no one is unique. Our individuality is like a fassett of an insects eye. It is only when we integrate the I Am, that we are really I Am. We are the awareness.
Positor wrote:Don Juan,
You may be interested in a thread I started last year on this very topic:
Don Juan wrote:Given I am aware of myself and all the reasons why I am aware, how come I am? How come this uniqueness, this personal point of view that I am? How come I exist? I emerged in this universe as my body gradually developed, from fertilization to full adult features. As I have no awareness of how I emerged, it will be the same condition, I believe, as I fade into death. This I am, this uniqueness and awareness, this segment, has no explanation except what we can notice about our body and its dynamics, that is, I am an emergent property of my body and how this body is associated with the rest of the universe. This point of view and uniqueness, this I am, is like anything else in the universe in terms of the dynamic organization that gives rise to it and supports it. Just like the flame, the trees, the wind, our body, etc, this I am will disappear as the underlying material organization disintegrates...like those changing shapes in a smoke that emerge, stay for a while and then eventually disappear.
ronjanec wrote:I do not mean to offend you in any way Don Juan, but I believe you are making this way too complicated at least in regards to God. No, we cannot of course personally understand him in many ways because he is way beyond our human comprehension. But even poor little me can at least understand him in some very important ways, because he gave all of us the ability to understand him in the same ways or for example;
What is God? God is love pure and simple.
If we want to be like God, then we are to love one another just like he loves every one of us. Some really important observations that we can make about God are very simple and really easy to understand just like this one. How God made everything in existence is of course a completely different matter.
God is love. This is the true meaning of God, or the most important thing you can ever say about him. It really is that simple. I have personally spent many years reading the Bible, and studying the life of Jesus, and at the end of the day, it basically all boiled down to this. If someone wants to know God and try to be like him, then we are to try our best to personally love one another.
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